Thoughts on some Posts today on the Hub * Important *
Mar 13, 2019 17:39:25 GMT -5
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Post by Ethan / JRyan on Mar 13, 2019 17:39:25 GMT -5
This is TOO important as when I take the time to do one of these it is immediately deleted. Guess what? It can not be deleted here! * Some modifications that would for sure make it deleted.
Thoughts,
Was Lindsey Graham, Zion Oil Executives, and Government officials all in Israel in meetings at the same time this week?
Kind of makes you wonder about timing, that one is for sure...along with the Syrian statement about the Golan.
Uncanny for sure.
For a large cap, Zion Oil is an attractive investment.
In terms of the investment required which is nothing to a large cap, Zion Oil and Gas provides tremendous upside.
This actually spooks me. I only want a partner, not a buyout in any shape or form. This would not be good for the goals......51% must remain with Zion and its shareholders, my opinion.
$50 Mill is nothing to the big guys.
jryan and i discussed that yesterday bc there wasnt anything new in the 10k as far as we saw to cause such action,but pps started rising after 10k
Agreed.
so either
1)the larger big boy community had misunderstood zn prior to the 10k
Possible for sure, likely in some ways.
2)or givot olam -which was just in the news for a 50 million investment and a reported 20-50 mbbl oil field proceeding east and probably north from elad which may take the oil field into zn's lease if the oil field has the same north south configuration of all the oil fields just west of such givot oil field
Probably a big part of it to some extent. If one does something others follow. I think we can be reasonably assured there is oil there in the area, economical oil is the other big question.
3)or some partnership in zn-at age 81? jb maybe open to that -i dont know but knowledge of any such -since it has not been reported -would be insider knowledge -which is nothing new for the big boys - they make their profits off insider knowledge -which is why i dont like to play most of the large blue chips-the big firms place their supercomputers at the point where transatlantic cables come onshore usa to get a fraction of a second advantage on other players and their supercomputer hft takes over
It is possible but think about it, this man has put his heart into this and at 81 wealth is not his concern for the most part, he has given Zion Oil some of that over the years but we know not what that is. His passion leaves me to think this is not in the cards for a buy out. A partner yes, but I think he would be selective of that partner to some extent. The focus and mission is first, I truly think he knows that. If someone buys Zion out at $2 he will have failed and lets face it, at 81, if he wanted money he of all people knows you can not take it with you. Patience he has had so this one I am not to sure about.
4)or something else
^^^^ THIS - I feel it, I have no clue but I feel it. It is something NONE of us suspect.
5) the volume yesterday- ca 8.6 million-is far greater than some claim as the number of shorts-so if thats true that reduces the chance it was a short squeeze -bu the experts on that have been silent
Somebody wanted a stake, in the open market. For what reason I do not know but I assume they want in. I also think it a private buyer but that is my speculation. Maybe 2-3 million of those shares. The others were along for the ride.
Trump probably called Lindsey and said...."Hey...get your crew over to Israel asap - I'm gonna throw some money at the drilling rigs and the cleaner rigs over there. We are going to find oil or steal it"
That's my guess
Why not try to be serious for once...that was just hogwash but that is what the intent was.
Snowflake Alert #1
Genie was drilling in the Golan Heights, correct?
I remember reading back in late 2018 that Genie was transitioning to retail energy, so they sold “a significant stake” of Atid Drilling, which is their onshore drilling operations, to Genie’s Chairman, Howard Jonas. Maybe he’s somehow involved.
I think you are onto something, I have documented (available online) some of that story in DETAIL. It could be him as he has Billions and millions are an afterthought. The real point is what was his vision for the area. The details of which are vague but not far from John Browns. ** This site is what I refer to and I can not link it there or immediate deletion
From a cursory look, I think Bibi and Lindsay were on the Golan on March 11th, possibly on the 10th.
That in itself should generate questions, but I did not know that Zion Oil was there at the same time. That is new to me. The Syrian UN statement was during that same time. Somehow they seem connected.
Up 50% from a week ago, Zion Executives meeting with Israeli Petroleum Commissioner while the stock is increasing. This is happening March 12. The lease was extended a week earlier.
They’re having an additional meeting? After substantial progress and approving the extension.
The Israeli gov’t publicly stating “join the party” and claiming a deep oil system?! Then, Lindsey Graham in the Golan Heights...
Something is going on.
Think about that, read it again, and then think.......
mj1 at closest point is only ca 2.3 mi from west bank to their south-
zn's planned 50 sq km 3D- if executed in a perfect circle -would be 2.48 mi radius
i.e.,to west bank to Sdei Trumot to Ein HaNativ to near Kfar Ruppin to Jordan River
but probably wont use perfect circle
Here look at this while thinking that...
Not to be picky, but there a a lot of gas stations in Israel that have more oil for sale in quart or liter cans, than Brown has produced in years of poking holes here and there.
Really is that the best one can come up with? I think it funny and a stretch, a desperate reach actually. *Snowflake Alert # 2
With these taxes payable to Israel (see Zion Oil's 2015 annual report), why would Israel want a partnership? They already own everything Zion Oil finds.
Royalty to Israel: 12.5%
Royalty to Israel Charity: 6%
Royalty to Senior Management: 1.5%
Tax on net profit from oil production: 44.56%
Tax on Corp profits earned in Israel: 25%
So as it is now, others get 90%, Zion Oil gets 10%, but has to pay all the bills. Bottom line, Zion Oil doesn't have much to offer a partner.
Well there is a spreadsheet on this very forum that shows that is garbage....I think the netback was $10. So if one is to spout things at least understand what the calculation is. What is the R Factor?
Now, after all that, I will look at see how Zion did today. My guess is down but not much.
Yes down but $0.85 is ok....yesterday was a ride and I missed most of it.....
We need some answers of that I am sure, but I will state publicly that something is up.....the news is not enough for what I see. Being that it is green, it must be good news, not great with today's close, but enough to warrant someone taking a position.
Was Lindsey Graham, Zion Oil Executives, and Government officials all in Israel in meetings at the same time this week?
Kind of makes you wonder about timing, that one is for sure...along with the Syrian statement about the Golan.
Uncanny for sure.
For a large cap, Zion Oil is an attractive investment.
In terms of the investment required which is nothing to a large cap, Zion Oil and Gas provides tremendous upside.
This actually spooks me. I only want a partner, not a buyout in any shape or form. This would not be good for the goals......51% must remain with Zion and its shareholders, my opinion.
$50 Mill is nothing to the big guys.
jryan and i discussed that yesterday bc there wasnt anything new in the 10k as far as we saw to cause such action,but pps started rising after 10k
Agreed.
so either
1)the larger big boy community had misunderstood zn prior to the 10k
Possible for sure, likely in some ways.
2)or givot olam -which was just in the news for a 50 million investment and a reported 20-50 mbbl oil field proceeding east and probably north from elad which may take the oil field into zn's lease if the oil field has the same north south configuration of all the oil fields just west of such givot oil field
Probably a big part of it to some extent. If one does something others follow. I think we can be reasonably assured there is oil there in the area, economical oil is the other big question.
3)or some partnership in zn-at age 81? jb maybe open to that -i dont know but knowledge of any such -since it has not been reported -would be insider knowledge -which is nothing new for the big boys - they make their profits off insider knowledge -which is why i dont like to play most of the large blue chips-the big firms place their supercomputers at the point where transatlantic cables come onshore usa to get a fraction of a second advantage on other players and their supercomputer hft takes over
It is possible but think about it, this man has put his heart into this and at 81 wealth is not his concern for the most part, he has given Zion Oil some of that over the years but we know not what that is. His passion leaves me to think this is not in the cards for a buy out. A partner yes, but I think he would be selective of that partner to some extent. The focus and mission is first, I truly think he knows that. If someone buys Zion out at $2 he will have failed and lets face it, at 81, if he wanted money he of all people knows you can not take it with you. Patience he has had so this one I am not to sure about.
4)or something else
^^^^ THIS - I feel it, I have no clue but I feel it. It is something NONE of us suspect.
5) the volume yesterday- ca 8.6 million-is far greater than some claim as the number of shorts-so if thats true that reduces the chance it was a short squeeze -bu the experts on that have been silent
Somebody wanted a stake, in the open market. For what reason I do not know but I assume they want in. I also think it a private buyer but that is my speculation. Maybe 2-3 million of those shares. The others were along for the ride.
Trump probably called Lindsey and said...."Hey...get your crew over to Israel asap - I'm gonna throw some money at the drilling rigs and the cleaner rigs over there. We are going to find oil or steal it"
That's my guess
Why not try to be serious for once...that was just hogwash but that is what the intent was.
Snowflake Alert #1
Genie was drilling in the Golan Heights, correct?
I remember reading back in late 2018 that Genie was transitioning to retail energy, so they sold “a significant stake” of Atid Drilling, which is their onshore drilling operations, to Genie’s Chairman, Howard Jonas. Maybe he’s somehow involved.
I think you are onto something, I have documented (available online) some of that story in DETAIL. It could be him as he has Billions and millions are an afterthought. The real point is what was his vision for the area. The details of which are vague but not far from John Browns. ** This site is what I refer to and I can not link it there or immediate deletion
From a cursory look, I think Bibi and Lindsay were on the Golan on March 11th, possibly on the 10th.
That in itself should generate questions, but I did not know that Zion Oil was there at the same time. That is new to me. The Syrian UN statement was during that same time. Somehow they seem connected.
Up 50% from a week ago, Zion Executives meeting with Israeli Petroleum Commissioner while the stock is increasing. This is happening March 12. The lease was extended a week earlier.
They’re having an additional meeting? After substantial progress and approving the extension.
The Israeli gov’t publicly stating “join the party” and claiming a deep oil system?! Then, Lindsey Graham in the Golan Heights...
Something is going on.
Think about that, read it again, and then think.......
mj1 at closest point is only ca 2.3 mi from west bank to their south-
zn's planned 50 sq km 3D- if executed in a perfect circle -would be 2.48 mi radius
i.e.,to west bank to Sdei Trumot to Ein HaNativ to near Kfar Ruppin to Jordan River
but probably wont use perfect circle
Here look at this while thinking that...
Not to be picky, but there a a lot of gas stations in Israel that have more oil for sale in quart or liter cans, than Brown has produced in years of poking holes here and there.
Really is that the best one can come up with? I think it funny and a stretch, a desperate reach actually. *Snowflake Alert # 2
With these taxes payable to Israel (see Zion Oil's 2015 annual report), why would Israel want a partnership? They already own everything Zion Oil finds.
Royalty to Israel: 12.5%
Royalty to Israel Charity: 6%
Royalty to Senior Management: 1.5%
Tax on net profit from oil production: 44.56%
Tax on Corp profits earned in Israel: 25%
So as it is now, others get 90%, Zion Oil gets 10%, but has to pay all the bills. Bottom line, Zion Oil doesn't have much to offer a partner.
Well there is a spreadsheet on this very forum that shows that is garbage....I think the netback was $10. So if one is to spout things at least understand what the calculation is. What is the R Factor?
Now, after all that, I will look at see how Zion did today. My guess is down but not much.
Yes down but $0.85 is ok....yesterday was a ride and I missed most of it.....
We need some answers of that I am sure, but I will state publicly that something is up.....the news is not enough for what I see. Being that it is green, it must be good news, not great with today's close, but enough to warrant someone taking a position.
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